Responses to Questions on
Unificationism on the Internet - Volume 57
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 18:14:26 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification, talk.religion.misc,
alt.support.ex-cult
Subject: Re: Dennis Smith unmasked (alias Larry Zilliox Jr.)
Well, well, well! I just got a call on the telephone from Larry Zilliox and he
wants to know my sources. He wants to know which of his friends I have been
talking to. Well, I did not know that a person of his character had any
friends. And I bet this message is from Larry Zilliox under the disguise of an
anonymized name. Well, I am not going to reveal my source. And that's that!
Damian Anderson
Ronin wrote:
> Things are often very hard to follow in this newsgroup so I have to ask how
> what Dennis Smith wrote identifies him as this Larry Zilliox person?
>
> Bo Hi
>
> Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.04.9908041155340.4924-100000@www.unification.net...
> >
> > Dennis Smith wrote:
> >
> > > United States District Court for District of Columbia
> > >
> > > SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
> > > 500 North Capitol Street
> > > Washington, D. C. 20549
> > > (202) 523-5506
> > >
> > > Plaintiff,
> > >
> > > V.
> > > CIVIL ACTION NO. 79-
> > >
> > > UNIFICATION CHURCH INTERNATIONAL
> > > 1028 Connecticut Avenue, Suite 703
> > > Washington, D. C. 20036
> >
> > Gosh, Dennis, this is old news. Or should I give everyone your real name:
> >
> > Investigative Research Specialists
> > 1390 Chain Bridge Road
> > Suite 10
> > McLean, VA 22101-3904
> > Contact: Larry Zilliox
> > (703) 356-5922
> > (703) 790-9415 FAX
> >
> > Email: watchernet@aol.com
> >
> > Your name appears in numerous references to anti-religious groups.
> >
> > I see also that you published a book:
> >
> > The Opposition Research Handbook
> >
> > THE OPPOSITION RESEARCH HANDBOOK: A Guide to Political Investigations
> > by Larry Zilliox Jr. Investigative Research Specialists. 64 pages
> > plus appendix.
> >
> > Even your friends described the book as Machiavellian. It appears on web
> > sites where you are told how to run rings of spies, intercept private
> > phone calls and make bombs. Such great company you keep!
> >
> > Also, I see that you work for Planned Parenthood:
> >
> > http://www.plannedparenthood.org/Library/opposition/vol1num4/art1.htm
> > Sex, Lies, and Slideshows: Rev. Moon and Sex/HIV Education
> > by Frederick Clarkson and Larry Zilliox
> >
> > You were also seen at the FACTNet conference in February 1999:
> >
> > 1999 CULTinfo National Conference
> > http://www.offlines.org/page1.html
> >
> > Say it isn't so.
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:58:08 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
To: George <george@iofw.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification, alt.support.ex-cult
Subject: Re: What Damian really said to Craig Maxim
George,
It is indeed a sincere offer. If you would like to e-mail me privately with
your phone number, I can call you on the phone. Please note that in
Washington DC, I am 5 hours west of Greenwich. I can only call from home, so
mornings before 9 am, evenings after about 6 pm and weekends will work. I
could also adjust my schedule if you need to be reached at a particular time.
Regards,
ITPN,
Damian
George wrote:
> In article <37B235B2.98ACF0F@unification.net>, Damian J. Anderson
> <damian@unification.net> writes
>
> >I am sincerely and seriously interested in helping people overcome their
> >anger in relation to negative experiences they have had with the
> >Unification Church.
>
> This sounds like a sincere offer and a generously made one at that. I
> would like to take you up on it, if I may?
>
> Is this OK with you?
> --
> George Nimmo
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:08:45 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification, alt.religion.christian,
alt.support.ex-cult
Subject: Re: The Truth About Jacob and Esau and Rev. Moon
Craig, you make some good points about the Bible, and clearly you have read
it carefully, if you did in fact write this. However, there is no need to
denigrate someone else, Rev. Moon in this case, in the same breath as
sharing your own faith. Just share your faith, sincerely and simply and let
that speak for itself. The barbs do you no credit.
And for your information, the term "heavenly deception" is used by
Unification Church critics, and not by members of the church. It is not
something we teach, it is something others accuse us of teaching.
Sincerely,
ITPN,
Damian Anderson
Craig Maxim wrote:
> Rev. Moon is wrong about God justifying deception, and of Jacob and
> Esau being some kind of proof of this terrible belief in God as a
> rewarder of deception!
>
> Please read this entire article. I promise you that it will increase
> dramatically your knowledge of Jacob and Esau and how they relate to
> our modern day world, as well as how The Unification Church has used
> the Bible to justify deception.
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:10:33 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification, alt.arts.ballet, alt.support.ex-cult
Subject: Re: Moonies own Kirov Ballet, why no credit to Moon?
I agree with you they should ackowledge their benefactor and founder. It is
an ungrateful thing to run such a school with charitable funds and not
acknowledge the source.
Damian Anderson
Craig Maxim wrote:
> I noticed that at:
>
> http://www.kirovballet.com/
>
> Which appears to be the offical Kirov Ballet website, there seems to be
> no mention of Rev. Moon (founder of the Moonies) as the founder and
> beneficiary of the school. There are also many moonies in key positions
> at the school, including president. There are also special performances
> at the school for Moon and his friends. Why no mention that he
> owns/founded the Kirov Ballet (formerly Universal Ballet)?
>
> Just an oversight?
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:32:34 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.unification,
alt.support.ex-cult
Subject: Who is a Christian?
Anton Hein wrote:
Anton Hein's (ahein@xs2all.nl) reply to "Damian J. Anderson"
<damian@unification.net>, who - on Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:02:27
GMT - wrote:
> > Excuse me madam. I don't think that a woman who has been married
> > six times is in any position to be passing judgment on who is a
> > Christian and who is not:
> One does not determine whether or not someone is a Christian by the
> number of times he or she has been married, but rather by whether
> he or she has accepted Jesus Christ as personal savior and follows
> Him according to the teachings and practices set forth in the Bible.
Indeed. And Jesus said this:
Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it
lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every
reason?" "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the
beginning the Creator `made them male and female,' and said,
`For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and
be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh' So
they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has
joined together, let man not separate." "Why then," they
asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a
certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied,
"Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your
hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for
marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits
adultery." (Matthew 19:3-9)
Is marrying six times in accordance with this teaching?
> As someone who follows the heretical doctrines of Mr. Moon, *you*
> are not in any position to be passing judgment on who is or is not a
> Christian. You certainly are not a follower of Christ (Christian).
> You are a follower of Moon - a heretic and an anti-Christ.
I did not pass judgement on whether she is a Christian or not. I just
don't think she is qualified to judge whether someone else is or not, and
frankly, I don't think you are qualified either. Remember what Jesus
said:
"Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in
your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of
us." "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a
miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad
about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. (Mark
9:38-40)
I believe in Jesus Christ and attempt to the very best of my ability to
live according to his teachings. I don't think it is your place, or that
of a woman with six husbands to tell me otherwise. I trust that God is my
judge, not someone who makes a habit of belittling and ridiculing the
faith of others. Jesus had a name for such people. He called them blind
guides and hypocrites. I guess that at the time of the second coming of
Christ, there will also be the second coming of the blind guides and
hypocrites.
--
Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:42:07 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification, alt.support.ex-cult,
alt.religion.christian
Subject: The fiction of brainwashing
Anton Hein wrote:
> Anton Hein's (ahein@xs2all.nl) reply to "Damian J. Anderson"
> <damian@unification.net>, who - on Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:13:45 GMT - wrote:
>
> >Mind control is a figment of the imagination of a group of anti-religious
> >zealots.
>
> You make the common error of claiming that those who believe mind control
> exists are "anti-religious." The vast majority of people who ascribe to
> mind control theories are not anti-religious. Rather, they object to the
> unethical use of persuasion tactics, such as used in cultic movements.
I dispute that. I think YOU are anti-religious, because you are only willing
to tolerate and respect people who are like you, and attack the faith of
others who disagree with you. I am willing to talk about my faith, but when
you bring in this secular nonsense about mind control, then you cloud the
issues with psychobabble. I find the whole thing laughable. Christian
ministers who fear losing their congregations to brainwashers have already
lost them by their own insipidity.
Christians who believe in brainwashing clearly have no concept of the dramatic
religious conversion experiences that permanently change people's lives.
Anyone who experienced that would know that conversion purifies not only the
brain, but the heart, mind and soul, and starts a process of cleansing and
regeneration which is the path to sanctification and holiness. If people are
looking to new fringe religions for their religious experiences, you have to
look no further than the Christian churches who have abandoned the Gospel in
pursuit of the foreign gods of political correctness, tolerance, diversity,
while ignoring the crippling evils of homosexuality, pre-marital sex, divorce,
adultery, and abortion. This is another case of straining out gnats and
swallowing camels.
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:48:22 -0400
From: Damian J. Anderson <damian@unification.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.ex-cult, alt.religion.unification,
alt.religion.christian
Subject: The illusion that we create our reality
Bill Taylor wrote:
> Damian J. Anderson wrote:
>
> > Mind control is a figment of the imagination of a group of anti-religious
> > zealots. 100 years ago, people who opposed the Mormons said that they
> mesmerized
> > people, just as people accuse the Unification Church of brainwashing
> today. There
> > is no scientific or factual basis for it at all. People are free to
> choose their
> > religion, just as they are free to choose which car they want to drive.
> You can
> > listen to the salesman if you want, but there is no obligation to buy. :-)
>
> And you are how old, Damian?
Pass.
> Are you aware that reality is invented? Are you aware the degree to which
> advertizing and other media 'encourage' us to invent our reality?
What arrogance! Did you invent the laws of nature? Did you create the universe?
Are you God? The only reality you can create is the one between your ears, and
the things you create in the world. All other reality is not created by you.
Sorry.
> If you really have something honest to say, please, please post it here.
> If you want to prove how juvenile you can be, just be clear that you
> represent the 'messiah' as a teenage asshole would.
How eloquent! ;-) It is your solipsism that is the concept of an immature mind.
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Damian Anderson damian@unification.net http://www.unification.net